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NRA: Obama Wants ‘War’ So We’re Preparing for ‘Battle’

Jan Morgan
 

About the author: Jan is a nationally recognized 2nd Amendment Advocate/Speaker/ NRA Certified Firearms Instructor/ Associated Press Award winning investigative journalist/ Owner/Editor JanMorganMedia.com, Sr. Editor/Patriot Update/ Independent Constitutional Conservative. She is closely aligned with the Republican/ ... [read 's FULL BIO]

NRA President David Keene said the gun-rights lobby is aggressively preparing for “battle” with the White House and Congress over President Obama’s sweeping new proposals to curb gun violence.

Keene criticized Obama’s announcement, surrounded by four children from around the country, for “using kids to advance an ideological agenda.” And he expressed cautious confidence that few of the legislative measures would ultimately pass.

“It’s going to be very tough for the president to accomplish some of these things, but that doesn’t mean he can’t do it if he really turns it on.”
“All bets are off when a president really wants to go to war with you,” he said. “We’re gonna be there and we’re gonna fight it.”

Keene said passage of the 1994 assault weapons ban remains fresh in the minds of NRA leaders, noting that initial widespread congressional opposition gradually gave way to a narrow margin in favor, thanks in part to pressure from then-President Bill Clinton.

NRA members would hold accountable any politicians who “sell them out to some pie-in-the-sky scheme such as the president is proposing,” he said.

The group launched a new “Stand and Fight” advocacy campaign opposing Obama’s gun control measures, anchored by a controversial new TV ad that began airing online and on the Sportsman Channel.
The ad calls President Obama an “elitist hypocrite” for sending his daughters to a private school with armed guards while questioning whether all other U.S. schools should have the same security measures. The White House blasted the ad as “repugnant and cowardly.”

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Yovnne G says:

NRA you need to back off of the agreeing with Obama about the international background check. This will give names and addresses of everybody. Note what you are agreeing to. I notice when I went to the doctor last, they give you a questionaire and on the questions it ask if you have been depressed, or have you thought about death, or hurting yourself. If you answer yes to these, then you have a mental problem according to the gun grab bunch. get my drift? I have seen many videos showing this Sandy school suppose to be shooting was a hoax. that needs to really be varified. I believe it could be because the obama admin. used it to try to grab guns.

horseridingplains says:

Nice one Stephen–abortion in later trimester or left to die on table–OK—firearms in law abiding citizens who will think for themselves–definitely not OK
Something wrong with this picture??
If I own a gun is not the issue–I feel bama is trying to trample the 2nd Amendment–if this doesn’t work he will try to sign the UN treaty- but maybe doesn’t have enough cover votes yet or maybe he will get another type of problem so he can take away the guns-
This is not about guns it is about controlling people
Remeber there are bills is office calling for relief of 3rd term restrictions–dictatorship on way.
I ask the Lord to help us and to help us help ourselves

Wayne_1958 says:

These arseholes have no idea what kind of hell will rain down upon them, They can hide in cheyenne mountain or under the denver airport or anywhere else they decide to hide like the punks they are but when all is said and done we will bury them under hundreds of tons of concrete and be done with it, And for any of soro’s bunch of followers that survive we will hunt you down like the nazi hunters did after WWII, And if you think you can shut us up let it be known that we have sent out many hundreds of letters via snail maill and e-mail to fellow patriots in case we go missing or you plant child porn on our computers. We are on to your tricks you little beeches and it will no longer work. Bring it on, it is time to thin the herd, And your supporters, The radical muslims, Acorn, Aclu, Lgbt, So on and so on will feel the pain you bring upon them also. Your political and other powers are coming to an end .

wdcraftr says:

Why wasn’t he asking the kids how they felt about being led to slaughter by an armed crazy because he didn’t feel they are worth protection?

USMCret says:

Should our state legislators conceed to Onbamanayshons executive order on guns then WE the PEOPLE should remove thosewho go along with this disarming of freedom loving AMERICANS. To give up a freedom is to concede to slavery and total government control of our lives and livelihood.

Fourth ID says:

Do you want to hear something ironic?Obama wants a background check to buy a weapon that is your second amendment right.He has a forged birth certificate,social security card,selective service card.He would not be able to be cleared for a security clearance but yet he can be President and Commander in Chief.Go figure!!!

waz says:

A couple of problems as I see it……

1)Our current government has overstayed it’s welcome.
2) The liberals and far left are nonsensical, can not reason and follow blindly.
3)Too many people have been raised to think the government will take care of them. Those same people have made our society dangerous.

Now the politicians, in order to protect themselves from the fear that WE the People have had ENOUGH… are beginning to disarm us. In doing so they just gave a thumbs up to criminals intent on home invasions in NY state. Criminals know they will only be confronted by a maximum of seven rounds. (at least from the law abiding citizens)

President Obama cannot ban any weapon. “We The People” have to do that. And mark my words, sooner or later “We The People” will be tired of the slaughter.

chetohimler says:

@John…I am a gun owner myself and I am truely sadden by what happened at Sandyhook. Had I been there and armed with one of my guns, I would have defended those children with all my life. It was indeed a tragedy. Now listen John, those guns did not belong to that killer. What does that have to do with any law abiding gun owner? Two weeks prior to Sandyhook, the same thing happened in China. Some wacko went into a school and killed about 23 children. His weapon? A knife. I know from your comments that you like Pres Obama, well that mighty fine of you. But now, Mr. Obama wants gun owner’s to go get their heads examined by a Shrink. I don’t appreciate that. That’s stereotyping gun owner’s. You can’t question an Arab dressed in garb and at Airport, but you can send a gunower to a shrink? Do you see where I’m coming from? How about the guy that shot people at the theatre? He hand bombs planted in his apartment. People destined to kill people will use anything that they can use. Don’t blame guns or gunowner’s. We go through enough crap to buy our guns. We pay taxes, we pay to renew our permits and licenses and we spend money on ammo. Seems to me that we also provide jobs for many.

NONE of those children died in China. It should be in the best interest of law abiding gun owners that we do everything we can to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

chetohimler says:

@John…Oh yes they did. Many children were murdered to death. I know I keep my guns locked up in my bedroom and only my family and I know where I keep the bullets. LIsten, John…criminals know that many businesses now have camera’s, does that stop them from committing crimes? No! Nothing will stop a criminal, unless he gets caught committing the crime.

disqustedcrustacean says:

John, I’ve been “tired of the slaughter” (interesting way of putting things, but I’ll go with it) for a long long time. In fact I don’t recall ever hearing of, or seeing a death that I found enjoyable, gratifying, or positive, so I’m not sure when exactly it was that I “enjoyed” or even “tolerated” “the slaughter”. Basically, I never have, and never will enjoy seeing people suffer, it causes me distress…But I am also tired of idiots pumping our children full of amphetamines like ritalin during their pre-pubescent hyper phase and then giving them anti depressants when they get mood swings during puberty, and every other damned thing.That’s also why I’m tired of “musicians” and other “artists” making violence look and sound cool and profiting from it, and I’m tired of people selling and perpetuating hate of every brand for no discernable reason. I’m tired of everyone thinking they are entitled to anything other than their rights. I am tired of morals and values being relative and secondary to wants and desires, I am tired of people having no respect for human life. I am tired of all these disgusting things, but these are all things I cannot change, there is evil in the world, and I cannot remove it, but I can try to be prepared for it If it ever comes looking for me and I can try to shelter myself, my family, and others that I love from it, and for that task, I will be armed.

I also happen to find firearms as collector items to be very interesting, they can be beautiful examples of some of the best craftsmanship humans can put out. I enjoy many shooting sports and find them to be very relaxing and enjoyable. Funnily enough, in my experience firearms are even fairly safe. In 2010 I was injured 5 times while bike riding, I rode my bicycle approximately 45 times that year. In 2010 I was injured 1 time while practicing shooting sports or otherwise interacting with a firearm (I twisted an ankle coming up a hillside). I interacted with firearms on 365 days of that year, and I was engaged in “shooting sports” on approximately 60 days of 2010.

addressing what you’ve said below:

Of course it is in the best interests of law-abiding gun owners to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. How could it not be? Have you ever seen what the ATF 4473 form (The form that you fill out to get a background check to buy a firearm) says? It’s pretty much a piece of paper you sign saying you aren’t a criminal, or insane, or a drug addict, and you aren’t buying a gun for anyone else (who might be a criminal or any of the other options) AND it also mentions that lying on the form itself is a criminal offense…So yeah, it’s definitely in your best interests when you just signed a piece of paper promising all that… It’s also pretty obvious that gun owners do not like being painted with a “crazy” brush and punished for the utterly insane acts of others, and I don’t think any other group would like that kind of treatment either. So I don’t think any responsible gun owner would disagree with you. I do think that there are criminals that would disagree, but I don’t think you can count criminals within the category of resposible firearms owner. There’s a big difference between someone that owns guns, and someone that perpetrates criminal acts with a gun, even though the media and NY state seem to think differently.

disqustedcrustacean says:

John, I’ve been “tired of the slaughter” (interesting way of putting things, but I’ll go with it) for a long long time. In fact I don’t recall ever hearing of, or seeing a death that I found enjoyable, gratifying, or positive, so I’m not sure when exactly it was that I “enjoyed” or even “tolerated” “the slaughter”. Basically, I never have, and never will enjoy seeing people suffer, it causes me distress…But I am also tired of idiots pumping our children full of amphetamines like ritalin during their pre-pubescent hyper phase and then giving them anti depressants when they get mood swings during puberty, and every other damned thing.That’s also why I’m tired of “musicians” and other “artists” making violence look and sound cool and profiting from it, and I’m tired of people selling and perpetuating hate of every brand for no discernable reason. I’m tired of everyone thinking they are entitled to anything other than their rights. I am tired of morals and values being relative and secondary to wants and desires, I am tired of people having no respect for human life. I am tired of all these disgusting things, but these are all things I cannot change, there is evil in the world, and I cannot remove it, but I can try to be prepared for it If it ever comes looking for me and I can try to shelter myself, my family, and others that I love from it, and for that task, I will be armed.

I also happen to find firearms as collector items to be very interesting, they can be beautiful examples of some of the best craftsmanship humans can put out. I enjoy many shooting sports and find them to be very relaxing and enjoyable. Funnily enough, in my experience firearms are even fairly safe. In 2010 I was injured 5 times while bike riding, I rode my bicycle approximately 45 times that year. In 2010 I was injured 1 time while practicing shooting sports or otherwise interacting with a firearm (I twisted an ankle coming up a hillside). I interacted with firearms on 365 days of that year, and I was engaged in “shooting sports” on approximately 60 days of 2010.

addressing what you’ve said below:

Of course it is in the best interests of law-abiding gun owners to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. How could it not be? Have you ever seen what the ATF 4473 form (The form that you fill out to get a background check to buy a firearm) says? It’s pretty much a piece of paper you sign saying you aren’t a criminal, or insane, or a drug addict, and you aren’t buying a gun for anyone else (who might be a criminal or any of the other options) AND it also mentions that lying on the form itself is a criminal offense…So yeah, it’s definitely in your best interests when you just signed a piece of paper promising all that… It’s also pretty obvious that gun owners do not like being painted with a “crazy” brush and punished for the utterly insane acts of others, and I don’t think any other group would like that kind of treatment either. So I don’t think any responsible gun owner would disagree with you. I do think that there are criminals that would disagree, but I don’t think you can count criminals within the category of resposible firearms owner. There’s a big difference between someone that owns guns, and someone that perpetrates criminal acts with a gun, even though the media and NY state seem to think differently.

Cynyster says:

It is very interesting to me. The reports say that they found the “Bushmaster” rifle in the trunk of a car. No .223 or 5.56 shell casings were found. So why is he trying to ban Semiautomatic rifles again? It is obviously not to save the children as Chicago had a record murder rate last year and more were due to clubs n such. No there is only one reason to ban my semiautomatic rifle. Tyranny!

I didn’t see the Fox News lie but every account that I read said that the bushmaster was the sole weapon used. He had other weapons but used only the bushmaster.

Fourth ID says:

I saw a video of the cop ejecting any shell left in the chamber in the trunk of the shooters car.It was a poor video but the result, among friends,that it was not an AR because the cop ejected the shells from the right side of the weapon.That is not where it is on an AR.Conspiracy?

Cynyster says:

I own an AR… and if you are looking down the barrel of one… the shells eject from my right side. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe all semi automatic weapons whether pistol rifle or shotgun,,, eject from the right side.

disqus_oY0b9sXjNN says:

This president did say he will abuse all of the power the office holds, right?

Mr. Incredible says:

The surest and most effective way to protest each of the changes in American Life that the Marxist pOTUS decrees is to be aware of each change as it manifests itsellf subtlety in your daily life. All areas, health, guns, regulations. Refuse to comply with these phony edicts and demand loudly, cosistently, and finally violently if necessary. This is how we over throw this tyrant and his perpetual erosion of our God given freedoms. It starts now, I refuse to comply. I have prepared myself for any outcome and sacrifices ahead.

Wow! I think Obama has gotten way too comfortable flexing his muscles and I think he is going to get a dose of reality. Thank God Americans are waking up to his communist agenda.

mikepalmer1759 says:

Yup, he will get impeached for this. No one will be able to stop the impeachment. He cannot sweet-talk the supreme court or capital hill. I’m keeping my gun. If a doctor questions me about if i gave a gun in my home, I will say, I will exercise my 5th Amendment right and refuse to answer that question.

Everyone who has not wrote their reps please do so now at ruger.com you can write them all at once. We all must do our part to keep our rights stand up and be heard now tell your reps to leave our 2nd Amendment alone. Get on social media let people know friend other like minded people. Do your part don’t wait for NRA or GOA to do it. Now would be a great time to become a member of either one or better yet BOTH!

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I am a proud member of the NRA and support the NRA 100%.

Phil Holman says:

Jan

Take an hour and a half out our your busy day and WATCH this.

http://vimeo.com/52009124

chetohimler says:

If I were at SandyHook the day of the killings, and I had my gun, I would have defended all those little children, and I would have died for them. Because of that sick, crazy SOB my rights are being restricted or taken away. What fault is it of mine or my gun?

fergie057 says:

When king Obama wants to take your guns he’s going against the constitution..the right to bear arms has been in the constitution for 200 yrs plus..I kinda like my gun for protection at night while my husband is working..OH WAIT..my husband hasn’t work but 5 weeks this year.mmm wonder why?.Oh well I still like my GUN!!

Common Sense says:

I’ve only worked 3/3 weeks this year…

yerdum says:

If he worked 5 weeks this year he is doing pretty damn good considering we are only in the third week of the year…

fergie057 says:

I think it’s pretty cowardly when he surrounds himself with kids!

Blindnation says:

And men with guns!!!

Hawk says:

An unarmed America is a target for terrorist!!

vernabc says:

Ok, so we were much better armed under Bush…?

chetohimler says:

Nah, we were armed about the same. But Bush never threatened to take away our guns. Whats your point?

Reagan wanted to ban assault style weapons.

chetohimler says:

@John…an assault weapon is an automatic weapon, meaning one pull of the trigger and the weapon continues to fire till all the ammo is wasted. These assault weapons are used by the Military. These weapons are already illegal here in the U.S. That some rifles “resemble” military weapons are just for show. These rifles are not automatic…the shooter needs to pull the trigger on each and every shot. The ammo used on these rifles are also different, they are not military grade. Military grade are designed to explode on contact and cause damage leading to death. On rifles used for hunting, the bullet is done to penetrate and puncture organs. A hunter does not want to damage the kill (meat). John, Reagans decision was based on the fact that an assasin named Hinckley attempted to kill him. But remember, Hinckley used a handgun.

vernabc says:

“Reagans decision was based on the fact that an assasin named Hinckley attempted to kill him.”
So it ok with the NRA to talk about gun control after Hinckley took shots at Reagan, but not after 20 children were shot in Sandy Hook..?

vernabc says:

Your statement “An unarmed America is a target for terrorist!!”
My point is it was under Bush this country suffered it’s greatest terrorist attack… How did all your guns help prevent 9/11…?

chetohimler says:

@Vernabc…well for one, 9/11 was not a ground attack on the U.S, it was done by using plane’s and crashing them into buildings (not apples & oranges). A better example is the FT. Hood shootings…that nutbasket muslim shot and killed many U.S Soldier’s…but, he himself was taken down by a gun. The statement made by “Hawk” about an unarmed America is a target to terrorist”, is right on. Criminials/terrorist are a danger, that is why the Police are armed.

NRApatriot says:

@vernabc,You stupid ignorant fool! Clinton is the one that let Bin Laden get away in North Africa when he had the chance to nail him! I didn’t care for a lot of Bushs policies but blaming him for 9/11 is a typical liberal traitors way! Shift the blame, it’s not our fault! DIE TRAITOR!

vernabc says:

Project much…? When did I ever say 9/11 was Bush’s fault..? But now that you mention it…LOL.

“@vernabc,You stupid ignorant fool!”

Hey, don’t hold back dude, tell me how you really feel…LOL!!!

You nickname says it all… Just another angry white guy… Hey, how did you like the Inauguration ceremonies yesterday???

4 MORE YEARS!!!

NRApatriot says:

Don’t know about you but I’m much better armed since the muslim communist userper weaseled his way into office!

vernabc says:

“In the last few years, and especially since 2007, there has been a dramatic rise in the number of attacks and violent plots originating from individuals and groups who self-identify with the far-right of American politics,” the report’s executive summary reads. “These incidents cause many to wonder whether these are isolated attacks, an increasing trend, part of increasing societal violence, or attributable to some other condition.”

The report warns of three categories of rightwing extremists that represent terroristic threats: “[T]he Racist/White Supremacy Movement, the Anti-Federalist Movement, and the Christian Fundamentalist Movement.”

So NRApatriot, which one of these groups do you belong too?

NRApatriot says:

None of your business who I belong to! You will probably find out soon enough but I doubt you’ll like it. I will admit to being a child of the Living God! I have read the book and guess what? We win in the end which is fast approaching! You probably don’t know anything about that Book either! Definetly not a racist. At my church we have whites, blacks, hispanics, asians and even some native Americans! In Gods kingdom there is no such thing as race or nationallity, we are all children of the Living God! I have several black conservative friends who did not vote for the userper and ask me if I can visualize being a black conservative in their communitys. Ever been called an uncle Tom? These same black conservative patriots are ready willing and able to take up arms when the time comes! Bet you didn’y know that blacks fought on the side of the confederacy during the war of northern aggression! Did you know that when the first tyrant president Abe Lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation it only applied to the southern states? The north got to keep their slaves until several years later it was broadened to include all states! You liberal loonies preach tolerance and tolerate everything but conservatives, patriots and Christians! Such hypocrisy! I’m sure the reports you refer to are full of liberal bias and are slanted to portray anyone that doesn’t agree with their agenda as backwoods uneducated simpletons! Guess I should check in to that anti federalist movement because I don’t know anything about it. Just the name sounds interesting enough though! I don’t put any stock in surveys or polls because they are to easily manipulated! It’s way past time for the country to return to the republican principles it was founded upon and I don’t mean party because both parties are corrupt and only property owners and business owners should be allowed to vote! Freeloaders will always vote for whoever will give them a hand out and only people who actually have a stake in it should be allowed to vote! Socialism is great until you run out of other peoples money! 35 years ago I slept under a bridge because of substance abuse and other bad decisions but through Gods grace and HARD WORK I now own some property and have my own business, live reasonably comfortably and the government did not build it for me and I highly resent the government taking my taxes and giving it to low life lazy bums who lay around and have more welfare babies and use it for funding the murder of unborn children in their mothers womb! How long do you think a Just and Righteous God will withold judgment upon a country that has murdered 56 million and still counting defenseless babies before they even had a chance to draw a breath of air? I once was a registered democrat and a liberal myself but setting at a stop sign in the country one day in 93 God invaded my truck and asked me a question that changed my life! He opened my eyes to truth that I was denying and showed me the error of my ways! He is real because I heard His audible voice! His Spirit now dwells within me and leads me into all truth! It was almost traumatic but in a good way! I can only pray that He will open your eyes before you too have your part in the lake of fire. Otherwise, DIE TRAITOR!!!

NRApatriot says:

Where you gonna hide when the shooting starts coward? Maybe that will be the day you get to see your new residence in hell! Did you know that hell is just a holding cell before you stand trial before God? His Word says that even hell itself will be cast into the lake of fire after the judgment! Just think about it, all your heroes will be there! Gang raped daily by the likes Ginghus Kahn and the entire mongul hoarde, Ivan the Terrible, Joseph Stalin and every other evil, vile, wicked human that ever walked the face of the earth! Oh yeah, your father satan will be there too laughing at your stupid ignorant self!

vernabc says:

Shooting…?

where were the children when he voted for partial birth abortion?

vernabc says:

Don’t you mean fetuses?

mikewh says:

Of course the white house called it cowardly….but who are they really? The real cowards are the ones hiding behind children and assumed power. Screw the white house. They act as though people still have respect for the white house. Clinton and Obama have ruined that..

vernabc says:

LOL… So where does Bush/Cheney fit into the whole “respect for the white house”…

Mr. Incredible says:

Neither Bush, Reagan, Cheney had Anti-America Muslim Brotherhood to the WH on a regular basis, none of them had an intern under the desk. Reagan wouldn’t even take his suit coat off in the Oval Office because he had so much respect for it. THAT’S WHERE THE WHOLE RESPECT FITS IN! You COWARDS AND TRAITORS WOULD NEVER GET THAT.

vernabc says:

Nice use of your cap lock key… Makes your point so much more valid…NOT!!! LOL…

Buck says:

Every body likes a little a– but nobody likes a smart A–!

vernabc says:

So in other words, whoever does not agree with you…?

NRApatriot says:

@Mr.incredible, I must say that was well spoken and true words! vernabc has shown by his own statements what a godless mindless idiot he really is! He seems to think it’s funny but most loonie liberal traitors have no idea what’s in store for them soon!

I have great respect and admiration for President Obama. He is a good man and a great president.

NRApatriot says:

You are as crazy and deluded as vernabc! DEATH TO ALL LIBERAL TRAITORS

ExNoZtoTheY says:

you know who else surrounded himself with children?

vernabc says:

Santa Clause?

Yovnne G says:

hitler

vernabc says:

You just love to cut and paste don’t you…? So which one of those kids are you now saying is Emily, you POS..? Come on, all your friends here must share you delusional thinking…
You are losing the initiative… Your skin head buddies here are now talking about Obama’s kids having armed guards, and if only those poor children at Sandy Hook had armed guards protecting them… But wait… I thought no one died at Sandy Hook..? I thought they were actors…?

You know dip sh_t, that is the problem with telling lies… The truth always suffers. When you never tell the truth, truther, it is hard to keep your story straight… And keep track of what neo-nazi website you are posting on.

chetohimler says:

@vernabc….meanwhile, as you finished writing your comment, King Obama just hired more armed security guards. What’s he affraid of?

Mr. Incredible says:

He has reason to fear. He exposes himself as a Marxist, Traitor and Liar daily. They always get what they deserve. It starts Today, with Me. It starts Today with All True Americans. Not the elitists nor the entitled, but only the Free and Brave!

What marxist? What Muslim? What Kenyan? You extremist cons are liars!

vernabc says:

“In the last few years, and especially since 2007, there has been a dramatic rise in the number of attacks and violent plots originating from individuals and groups who self-identify with the far-right of American politics,” the report’s executive summary reads. “These incidents cause many to wonder whether these are isolated attacks, an increasing trend, part of increasing societal violence, or attributable to some other condition.”

The report warns of three categories of rightwing extremists that represent terroristic threats: “[T]he Racist/White Supremacy Movement, the Anti-Federalist Movement, and the Christian Fundamentalist Movement.”

freebirds says:

All 3 of those groups are being pushed by the govt to a corner. The govt is the very reason your seeing a hike in these groups if what you say is true. They keep putting the red blooded american to the wall and catering ti the blacks, welfare reciprocates, gays, abortion, anti gun liberals,every thing that this country was not founded on. And we wonder why this country is going to hell in a hand basket. Remove morals and God and look at what happens. Back up 50 years ago when school still had prayer and look at how good things were. But then again.. this is something liberals dont understand. Why.. because its called logic.

vernabc says:

And thankfully my scary friend, you do not get to dictate logic.

freebirds says:

Yes.. for your lack of logic. Be thankful. For if i did push on with my logic,crimes would be nill and this country would prosper again. Totally against the liberal agenda.
For instance. Take the 20 most successful cities on lack of crimes and fiscal responsibility. That are not in the red. You know what they all have in common. You guessed it.. Republican Mayors. Hmm. Take the 20 highest crime cities in this country and look at there debt. Then look what party there mayor is. You guessed it again. This is LOGIC. if it work toward a positive progression go with it. If it burdens in a negative manor get rid of it. See how black and white logic is.

vernabc says:

LOL… Ok, so by using your “logic” which States are more economically challenged, higher unemployment, higher dropout rates, higher teen pregnancy, higher crime rates, and except more federal monies than they pay in. Google “Red State versus Blue State”.

Mr. Incredible says:

You deceive only yourself. Your kind, with no value and no truth within you will never get it .

vernabc says:

And thankfully, I live in a Free Country, that does not allow you or “Your kind” to dictated your “value and truth”…

Mr. Incredible says:

Your words will be used against you. Nothing quite so foolish as bringing the rope to your hanging Vern.

vernabc says:

Did you enjoy your President’s inauguration today?

You know your an idiot when you get all the so called facts wrong.

The majority of the attacks in the last 10 years have been carried out by far left wing nut cases.

The white supremacy movement is not actually Far Right, and name the last attack carried out by one of them?
The far right however is Patriotic and for Constitution over activist politicians out to control the FREE People that the Constitution Protects.
The Christian Fundamentalist Movement of which I am on the forefront of is not an enemy to the government and definitely not an enemy of the Constitution.
By the way the Constitution as written is the rule of Law not to be easily changed by a politician to make the citizens into subjects.
Not agreeing with someone and stating the definite inconsistencies, errors and downright lies in their argument, is not a danger to that foe, but is using our God given and Constitutionally protected rights.
Isnt it interesting that these studies all list the Christian Fundamentalist Movement as DANGEROUS but nearly all terrorist attacks are carried out by folllowers of Islam, HMMMM, sounds like another made up study to cover for those who are true dangers to society.

vernabc says:

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“HMMMM, sounds like another made up study to cover for those who are true dangers to society.”

Yeah, you are probably right, because you know those losers that they let into West Point are all Muslim sympathizers… LOL…

Actually, I was quoting a report that came out of West Point… Yeah, a real bastion of Muslim beliefs…LOL… HMMMM… and wasn’t Timothy McVeigh thinking about changing his name to Ali…? LOL…

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/14301-west-point-terrorism-study-targets-%E2%80%9Cfar-right%E2%80%9D-conservatives

“You know your an idiot when you get all the so called facts wrong.”

LOL… Talk about a self-fulfilled prophecy…LOL!!! Project much???

“The white supremacy movement is not actually Far Right…”

LOL… Yeah right…LOL…, because we all know there are lots of liberals in that group… Are you F_cking kidding me??? LOL…

Hate much, you ignorant racist?

vernabc says:

LOL… lie much?

Vern are you Bipolar? Are you off your meds? You sound very much like Loughner and Holmes before they went on their shooting sprees.

vernabc says:

I thought those were all a hoax truther…? Again, once you start telling lies, you can never find the truth… So which shooting was real and which one was a hoax truther?

Oops says:

Are you sure you have your facts right. Why was there a website created on the 10th for the Sadie Hook memorial??? Just saying!!

vernabc says:

And you ask me about “facts”…LOL… Ok, so tell me again, are you suggesting that the “guvment” killed the children, or are you saying it never happened? I seem to be having a problem keeping all you “truthers”, and your lies, straight…. (Ironic how a group of nut cases somehow are now being called “truthers” when everything they stand for is a lie…).

freebirds says:

I never saw where the person you replied to ever said a word about Sandy Hook. There you go making assumptions without facts. Typical loonie liberal. Lacking the intelligence needed to even make a statement as such. Go back to the school of logic.
There isn’t substantial evidence either way as of yet on Sandy Hook, but looking at the facts and studying them I lean toward the thoughts of something smelling like a skunk at this time.
That being said. ” rather it did happen or not” given the idea that it did if I may. I believe full hearted that if he were there with a gun, there would be less losses. There again if someone could bring as much evidence or even half the evidence that is out there supporting the fact that it is a hoax.

vernabc says:

“There you go making assumptions without facts.”
LOL… Pot calling the kettle black…
If you don’t believe me, why don’t you ask him yourself.

NRApatriot says:

@freebirds, Liberal loonies never let something like facts or logic enter into their arguments. It’s something they can’t understand. They have no comprehension or understanding of liberty or any of Gods ways. They all are the product of the dumbing down of school students that began in the early sixties by the liberal controlled school systems just so they could have an enemy to our constitution in office as we have now! Unfortunately they have succeeded and I fear the country will never be restored to its former greatness after the muslim communist userper in chief weaseled his way in twice! God help us all!

NRApatriot says:

@vernabc, Your chamber in hell is prepared for you! Hope you enjoy eternity in the lake of fire with the rest of your heroes!

vernabc says:

LOL!!!
So much hate… Who pooped in your cornflakes this morning…?

NRApatriot says:

Not hate, just fact! Laugh out loud while you can because when you stand before your Creator at The Great White Throne Judgment you will be crying and begging for mercy but it will be to late for you! Your mind can not comprehend the agony and torment that awaits you for all eternity! Do you know how long eternity is? Die traitor!!!

vernabc says:

You forgot your meds again today didn’t you…?

NRApatriot says:

Enjoy making your smart a$$ed remarks while you still can because very soon you are going to discover the true meaning of terror! Did you know The Word of God says we will give Him an answer for every idle word we have ever spoken? There will be no excuse or blaming it on something or someone else on that day! Your day of reckoning is fast approaching!

vernabc says:

Right…

NRApatriot says:

You can bet your eternal soul I’m right! If your feeble mind could even start to comprehend the eternal agony and torment that awaits you it would scare you straight to repentance! Do you even know what that word means? Wailing and knashing of teeth and eternal fleeing with no where to go from every evil vile sadistic human that ever walked the earth who will be cast into the lake of fire burning with sulphur and brimstone! Is that what you want? Vern imagine being raped daily by Ginghus Kahn and the entire mongul hoarde while Ivan the terrible and Joseph Stalin are fighting for their turn at you! This life is only a test to prepare and determine where you spend eternity! You will have a physical body in the next life, some for a glorified body and some for an eternally corrupt body! In the twinkling of an eye the dead in Christ will be raised and those of us who believe and are still alive will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air and forever more we will be with Him! At that moment the seven year tribulation period begins which before it is over fully two thirds of the worlds remaining population will die! Do you understand anything about biblical numerics? In case you are ignorant the number 7 stands for perfection or completion. When Christ returns with his saints at the end of the seven years which by the way He says if He didn’t return then that no flesh would survive, He will establish His throne, the very one King David sat upon, in Jerusalem and rule the nations with a rod of iron for one thousand years! At the end of the Millennial Reign the nonbelievers will be raised from their graves to face judgment before a Holy Righteous God and to be given their just reward. The Word calls that the second death! It certainly seems to me that is what you have chosen! Remember this, just because you don’t believe doesn’t mean it’s not true! His Word says every knee will bow! Bow your knee now while you still have a free choice or be forced to bow when you will have no choice and it will be to late!

jim johnson says:

Hilter was the best.

NRApatriot says:

I think Hitler is Obummers hero! In the beginning Hitler surrounded himself with kids just like Obummer when with a pen he started stripping good decent law abiding citizens of more of their freedoms! Dictators both the same!

wdcraftr says:

How about we use kids on tv, and ask them if they like having no guards or guns at their school to protect them from a lunatic like in Conn, or if they would like armed security there to protect them. Bet I know the most answers. Could also ask them if they would like security like the kids of Washington elites, but we don’t need to stoop to Obama’s level…